god walked with adam and eve in the garden
21 AND IF YOU WALK CONTRARY TO ME AND NOT LISTEN TO ME THEN I WILL ring 7 times more plagues upon you 22 I will also send wild beasts among you 23 and if you will not be reformed by me by these things BUT WILL WALK CONTRARY TO ME 24 THEN I WILL WALK CONTRARY TO YOU and punish you 7 times more for your sins Read lev 25:20 and if you shall say what shall we eat in the 7th year? But as seasoned believers we need to understand it is better to use our hearts to hear the sermons the pastors preach rather than the details of the text. My main point throughout has been to direct people back to Scripture to see what it really says. Ed, In fact it comes to mind that the statement can be transcended as a statement of faith, that the Lord God was loving and personal as he claims himself to be and did walk with them, who knows. Simply quoting Genesis 3:8 does not disprove the point of my post since that verse never says that they walked with God. Far too many people run around claiming, The Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden, but as Ive pointed out, it doesnt say that. But since God formed (literally squeezed into shape) Adam and breathed into his nostrils and removed one of his ribs and closed up the wound and walked in the garden and spoke to Adam and Eve (and then Cain later on) in a way they could easily understand, the assumption is unavoidable that God was physically there in tangible form. That would be really cool. If He did or didnt is still and can always be up for discussion , its a gut instinct in me that says no but at the end of the day Im just glad Im saved and can sort it out when I get to Heaven! To add to the post above, another theological consideration is the temple. Hi Ian, Romans 5:10-12 Some people have inferred from this statement that they must have known what it sounded like to hear God walk in the Garden so they must have walked with Him before. Adam and Eve. Its not that the inferences are necessarily wrong, its that they should not be mistaken for the Word of God. 14Today you are driving me from the land, and I will be hidden from your presence; I will be a restless wanderer on the earth, and whoever finds me will kill me.. Far too often, we allow traditions, even seemingly innocent ones, to become the basis for our understanding of Scripture. Please read Genesis 3:8-10: "Later they HEARD the VOICE OF JEHOVAH GOD as he was walking in the garden about the breezy part of the day, and the man and his wife hid from the face of Jehovah God among the trees of the garden. It is also the case that Adam and Eve had been commanded by God to "be fruitful and multiply, and fill the Earth" (Genesis 1:28). Thanks for reading. who knows perhaps it was. We do see God speaking to both of them in Genesis 1:2830 when He blessed them and told them to be fruitful and multiply and told them to eat vegetation. Canada AKA Commie Da under seditious King/Crime Minister Justin Trudeau!! Thanks for your comments. However, I dont see how your final statement about the garden has any relevance. We know that God was with Adam and Eve at all times and wherever they were. Nothing in that passage says it, and thats the main point of this post. I dont find your suggestion to be plausible. I dont think its a matter of God wanting or not wanting to spend time with His creation, but more of a matter of how much time passed before they rebelled. He is eternally begotten of the Father, one with the Father, in essence, but he had not yet become flesh. God Arraigns Adam and Eve. Now at that time there was an evil spirit called Satan. Well, in Genesis 2, Adam names the animals, and the only words quoted from him in Gen. 2 have to do with what he said when he met Eve: This is now bone of my bones and flesh of my flesh (Genesis 2:23). If the idea being conveyed by the text is a strong wind then this scene was probably quite similar to the way God spoke to Job, as I mentioned in the article. Maybe this is why pastors and teachers teach it this way (that God regularly walked with Adam and Eve), because they can see from the word study that this was a regular occurrence. is not an accurate analogy. And how many times is this a supporting argument for a main point or the main point itself? How beautifully expressive are these words of the familiar and condescending manner in which He had hitherto held intercourse with the first pair. Because the Bible never says that Adam and Eve walked with God. However, most people inevitably mention them walking in the cool of the day, so they arent thinking of it in the figurative sense. No, the One they were hiding from was one they were familiar with walking in the garden. Tim. They forgot about God. It would be accurate if the point of my article was to claim that Adam and Eve did not walk with God in the Garden prior to sin. Daniel, Adam and Eve obeyed God. As I stated in the post and many times in the comments, I have no trouble believing that they walked with God; I have a problem with people claiming that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God, because it doesnt say this. So Adam hears a sound, which he knows is the sound of God. Your answer leaves many questions for me though Please explain the remaining context of Gen. 3 in Adams walk with God. Im not sure that it necessarily follows that there would be ongoing communion and communication between God, Adam, and Eve. It doesn't say they viewed God with their eyes. That's why he was walking in the garden: he wanted to meet with Adam and Eve and spend time with them. So if your standard were correct, then that same standard would itself have to be outright affirmed in the Bible. God then planted a garden 'eastward in Eden' (2:8), containing both the tree of life and 'the tree of knowledge of good . The old has . I just think that Adam and Eve would have needed alot of one on one guidance from God, in person, that of which they couldnt have possibly received by remote control. You claim the following, which I label as CLAIM #1. But this does nothing to prove that they walked with God in the garden. God then created Eve, "a helper comparable to him" (verse 18). I too have always heard that God walked with Adam & Eve in the cool of the day every day. I was afraid because I was naked, so I hid.". Would that seem that they must have heard His voice at some other time. You cant see that god desires to walk with his people and expects rhem to walk with him? God appointed angels to guard the way back (Genesis 3:23-24). It would literally have been paradise just to walk with Jesus in the . What do you think?? He was given power and authority by Father God to create the universe and all life within it. Thats the point of this post. I have been studying this part about god walking with Adam when I came across your post. To be clearagain. But even that would not prove that He took strolls with Adam. No sowing or reaping for 3 years! The goal of this post is to encourage people to take a closer look at the Bible instead of repeating what theyve heard. IOW, IMV Where Adam FAILED, Christ Jesus PASSED, *Saying all this Tim, I truly respect your thoughts and views as a brother in Christ. It is true that the Bible does not say, Adam and Eve never walked with God in the garden. That isnt the point of my post. After Adam and Eve sinned, God found them hiding from Him as He was walking in the Garden. Hebrews 13:8 God is the same yesterday, and to day and forever more. And they heard the voice of the Lord God walking in the garden in the afternoon; and both Adam and his wife hid themselves from the face of the Lord God in the midst of the trees of the garden. But that isnt the point of what I wrote. why couldnt it have been Jesus walking in the garden. It does say he was afraid-afraid because they were naked. 12 Therefore, just as sin entered the world through one man, and death through sin, so also death was passed on to all men, because all sinned. In terms of the theological questions of how God could do this, one answer could be that it is an embodied pre-incarnate Christ, the Angel of the Lord, who is himself the Lord and who appears many times in the Old Testament. This is a different subject. This post isnt about whether they enjoyed fellowship with Him prior to sin and walked with Him in a metaphorical sense. One has still the Word of God walked in Eden. Thanks for taking the time to read the blog post and for your kind words. I worship in His presence and put off His presence! Behold we shall not sow,nor gather in our increase: now look at 21 Then I will command my blessing upon you in the sixth year and it shall bring forth fruit for 3 years 22 and you shall sow the 8th year and eat of the old fruit until the 9th year until the fruits come in. If you want to believe they did, thats totally fine with me. I guess its just hard to let go of certain ideas, but we must always allow our thinking to be challenged by what Scripture actually says rather than what we want it to say. Due to the craftiness of the serpent, sin found its way into the Garden and everything fell apart. Hi Ralph, If I am walkin* with you I would assume you are walking with me? From this view, Adam and Eve were with God in the Garden for a whileand they had the privilege of regularly hanging out with Him. After creating Adam, God "put him in the garden of Eden to tend and keep it" (Genesis 2:15). I dont really hear anyone saying, The Bible says Adam and Eve never walked with God in the garden, but if I did, then Id correct that as well. Just like when we will be fully glorified in the new age, we shall see God, because we shall be sinless then; Adam couldnt have hid himself from wind alone, there must be an accompanied physical presence that he knew about; When you follow the account of Genesis at that material time, its hard to think that God was just coming through the medium of wind, then why did he create man in the first place, if at all he didnt want the man to see him? You indicate a possible strong wind; did this wind also speak to the serpent and curse it? I see familiarity here. God called (using a Hebrew word that also means "to summon") Adam to face . In Lev 26 god goes into great detail about how they were to walk with god and how god would walk with them ( please dont say ohhh but it doesnt say it) it does say very loudly its deafening. How many pastors and other teachers have taught that the Bible says Adam and Eve walked with God in the garden? An additional notable commentary is that God made Adam in His image and likeness, and imbued him with His Spirit the breath of life. 6 And when the woman saw that the tree was good for food, and that it was pleasant to the eyes, and a tree to be desired to make one wise, she took of the fruit thereof, and did eat, and gave also unto her husband with her; and he did eat. Not because I think Im right and feel holier than thou but it was just something burning in me saying NO. They hear a sound. As I mentioned near the end of the post, I have no problem with the idea that Adam and Eve may have walked with God. How cool would that be! This just goes on and on and on all the way through this book about how god expects his people to walk with him please read the book of Leviticus slowly it gives all the details that genesis doesnt. . Adam & Eve hid themselves from God. You may be reaching for your Bible right now to prove me wrong. ( Genesis 3:13-15) When looking at Genesis 3:13-15, there is no direct indication that the serpent had legs, only that its curse would be "on your belly you shall go.". I have no problem with that. The adverbial phrase in the cool of the day (NIV, NASB, NJB) or the breezy time of the day (NJPS, NAB) translates the Hebrew phrase wind [rah] of the day. The NRSVs rendering makes the time more explicit, at the time of the evening breeze (also REB). This could be literally translated "the wind of that day." Some think this might refer to a strong wind. Joshua 1:8 This book of the law shall not depart out of thy mouth; but thou shalt meditate therein day and night, that thou mayest observe to do according to all that is written therein: for then thou shalt make thy way prosperous, and then thou shalt have good success. There are many, many Christians who have heard and taught that Adam and Eve physically took walks with God in the garden before they sinned. We know that God is capable of doing this, but my point is that the text never states or implies that He did. And whatever Adam called each living creature, that was its name.<<<<. On the sixth day of Creation, God created 'man' in the form of Adam, moulding him from 'the dust of the ground' (Genesis 2:7), breathing the breath of life into Adam's nostrils. I will make a helper suitable for him" ( Genesis 2:18 ). Thanks for reading! I dont believe this is a knock-down, drag-out argument, but given these details and many others described in my book, I believe angelic beings are very likely made in Gods image. Or maybe they read Gods mind. Finally, there are many who use the idea of Adam and Eve actually walking with God to stress the theological point of mans closeness to God prior to sin in order to contrast that with mans lost condition after sin. Our adversary seeks to discredit the validity of the Word of God. We "Walk With God" in Meditating upon His Word. 00:00. Whats not fine with me is saying that the Bible says something that it doesnt. Tim. Tim- Thank you, as I came searching for information on this before placing and they walked with God in my book I am writing! 8 Then GOD planted a garden in Eden, in the east. (Vs. 14) Did this wind also clothe Adam and Eve with skins from an animal that had to be killed? This verse appears immediately after our first parents rebelled against the Creator. For more information on the subject of Heaven, see Randy Alcorns book Heaven. 8 In the cool of the evening, the man and his wife heard the Lord God walking around in the garden. No? Weve arrived at a very similar conclusion very recently that Adam and his wife or help-meat very possibly disobeyed their creators command not to eat of the fruit of tree in the midst of the garden the first day they were placed there. Like a child jumping in his fathers arm as he comes home from work. When Eve gave birth to Seth (at age 130) she viewed him as a replacement for Abel. (Vs. 21) Did the wind drive them out of the garden? Picture this. It is like asserting that, since NO text in the Bible OUTRIGHT affirms that Adam ever saw the stars, then It is unwarranted to assume that he ever did see the stars.. My post is not arguing against the idea that Adam and Eve had some sort of relationship with the Lord prior to the Fall. No the bible didnt directly say they walked with God. I can see that they heard either a sound or a voice. He does indeed come down, but this time for confrontation and judgment, whereas before it had been for fellowship. 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